Wednesday, January 25, 2012

I'd say another bites the dust but...

So I meet this guy online.  Fine...I message him first.  I liked his profile and I went against my standard practice of letting guys contact me first.  It took a couple of days to write for him to write me back.  The correspondence started before Christmas fyi.  Our email exchange was slow.  I'd write him back, he'd take a few days to get back to me.  I wondered if it was aloof game.  He told me he was never in a hurry to meet women, even though some women pushed for it.  I waited for him to take the lead, didn't push for a phone call or a meeting.  Typically I like to meet quickly because in my experience you can't know if you like someone until you see them in 3D.  I'm betting there were a lot of mail order brides back in the day who ended up pretty disappointed when they finally met their pen pall.  Ooooops I may be jumping ahead.

We didn't end up talking until I was in the Rocky Mountains which was only a couple of weeks ago.  Things seemed alright.  We did talk a bit about men and women and the differences and he showed a little bitterness about women saying they wanted nice guys but really they didn't.  I told him that what they don't want is men who will give in to their every desire and have none of their own.  I told him women want men of character and values but are capable of making decisions.  He didn't really get it and the first red flag went off.  He still didn't ask to meet.  At this point we were exchanging text messages on a daily basis.  Then suddenly in a text message he said we should officially be a couple.  Now hold the phone! We hadn't met yet and I had been upfront with him when talking and said I reserve compatibility until the meeting.  He said he wanted to get to know me better before meeting.  That should have been the 3nd red flag.  I stopped communicating in text and worded an email that said I felt he was jumping the gun and didn't think it was wise to label us a couple at this point.  He responded back in a good way and made me genuinely wonder if I'd misread his text.

Last Friday night he gave me a call and as he talked it came out that he was over six feet tall.  I told him that if we worked out he would be the tallest guy I'd ever dated and that would be cool because I could wear four inch heels without worrying. At this point he said he hoped I wasn't wanting perfection.  I said of course not I'm not perfect.  Then he told me that he hadn't told me something about himself.  I jokingly respnoded by saying, "you're in a wheelchair!"  He said no that he'd been in an accident and had lost some teeth a couple of years earlier.  He said he was self concious about it.  I asked him if they were fixable and he indicated yes, that he needed to get a partial plate but hadn't done it yet.  He also indicated he had had a girlfriend who quite liked them the way they were.  I have to say it did put me off. Why wait so long to tell me?  Why send me text pictures of an attractive face and have me comment on them and not tell me there's more to it?

So then  on Saturday I had the cable guy coming over (sounds so cliche) to transfer all my services to another provider.  It was going to take a few hours to do it.  I told the online guy that the cable guy arrived.  When I got another text from him I ignored it because I was getting a lesson from the cable guy on how to use my remote (there's a joke in there somewhere).  When the guy left I sent online guy a text saying I was sorry I hadn't responded earlier but I was getting a lesson from the cable guy.  His text to me was:  "It took two hours?".  I read it as doubt.  I responded politely but then added it sounds like you were doubting the time it took.  He responded back that he was allowed to tease me and I quote "neener neener". Ummmm I thought that's weird.  I was also struggling because I felt shallow for feeling much less interest in this guy now that I knew about the teeth, but wavered because I thought hockey players have missing teeth and they're not so bad. Suddenly his financial situation became important, I wondered if his lack of ability to fix his teeth was money. He had indicated he lived with room mates, why was that I wondered?  I wasn't feeling good about the situation.  I wrote him an email on Sunday, making sure I didn't go in the teeth direction but basically told him I felt that things were off.  He responded saying he was coming into my town and would take me out for coffee.  I didn't hesitate to say yes.  I thought it would be unfair to make a judgement without meeting him.  That he asked me to dress up sexy should have been warning number 1000?  I told him I lived in that town and that although I dressed attractively I wouldn't be looking like a tramp.

We meet.  Oh my freaking for the love of god no.  He had NO, as in ZERO upper teeth.  I'm sorry no one can pull off that look.  No one.  NO ONE!

We enter the establishement where I am known to hang out with friends.  Thankfully there's barely anyone in there.  I catch the cute server girl I know trying to scope the guy out.  He stares at me when we sit down, I try not to look horrified.  He gives a quick smile and then returns his face to neutral, he must know a smile isn't a good look for him.  He wants to know if I'm going to eat.  First it's 3:30 in the afternoon, so I'm not hungry and second I have no desire to watch him eat.  I order a diet coke with a slice of lime.  He gets an ice tea.  There is zero rapport.  He doesn't have enough charm to pull it off.  The conversation didn't flow and I ask him about his economic situation.  He gives me a sad story about being down and out but he's on his way back.  This guy's look reflects it.  He tells me he likes how I look and how I'm dressed.  I'm so far above his current situation it's painful.  I say that men are luckier than women because they can pull off good looks with a simple wardrobe.  I'm actually throwing him a bone.  He picks it up by saying that men who dress nice think they're all that and fake.  Ummmm... I bring up the text he sent and say that it threw me off.  He gets defensive and tells me that it was a joke and he'd put lol after it.  I say no it didn't but regardless it wasn't funny regardless.  He looks the text up and admits it didn't have lol, but continues to tell me it was a joke.  I look at him and tell him he's digging a bigger hole.  He sheepishly agrees it wasn't funny and says "I'm sorry."  Now most people would know it was over at this point but he doesn't get it.  He asks me what I think of us a couple and I can tell he genuinely thinks I might have a positive answer.  I say that I don't think we're a match and his face falls down.  I say that although I'm not looking to be cared for I'm looking for someone in my socio-economic bracket so that combining forces could allow for a very nice life.  It's awkward.  I have never in my life had that discussion during a meeting.  There is a huge power imbalance and it's entirely in the opposite direction of what I like.  I tell him I am very analytical and that might drive him crazy (trying to give him an out) and he says he really likes how I am.  I say that I really like intellectual discussion and he says he can do that.  I ask him what he'd like to talk about and he looks at me and says "I'd like you to kiss me now".  I responded without thinking, "NO!".  I was shocked (and horrified) truth be told and my no came out like it had been fired from a gun.

The meeting wrapped up shortly thereafter and we headed for our respective vehicles.  I asked him if I could contact him.  My purpose was to have a few kind words to say for closure.  The NO allowed no room at that point and I knew anything I said at this point would be patronizing.  There was more contact but that's my next post.  Needless to say I hope I don't need to get law enforcement.

14 comments:

Nestorius said...

So you knew all the way you were heading into a crush. What made you keep going? Why waste the time of both of you?

Student said...

well that didn't go so well aoefe..

"you damn skippy it didn't go too well"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwCWvn60L3w

Anonymous said...

Wow! That sucks, aoefe. Maybe you shouldn't have met up with him after he admitted his teeth issues. And there is always call blocking!

Firepower said...

ugh this hookup is quite repellant and i am so disgusted with you now aeofe

Doug1 said...

I have mixed feelings over what to say to you about this.

You spent way too much time with him. But I like that you don’t want to be mean.

I see this as highly analogous to a guy with some alpha in him meeting up in person with a girl he’d gone back and forth with online, who turns out to be obese rather than non fat as the old pics she posted at the dating site depicted her to be.

Since it’s clearly an absolute no go from the get go on meeting in person, I think the guy should just say something like “I’m sorry, this isn’t going to work for me. You don’t look anything at all like the pics you posted at the dating site. Looks aren’t the only thing to me, but they are a threshold thing. I don’t want to waste your time or mine. I’ve got to go.” Gmac had such an encounter and I said that to him. He responded with you’re right, live and learn.

I mostly think you should have said something like that. Getting into the socioeconomics and all the rest as a way of getting him to take the hint and early end it himself was just if anything hurting him more. Not that he doesn’t in some ways deserve it, having been pretty deceptive about his looks, and inability apparently socioeconomically to fix that at that point. But mostly I think you had to sit through more uncomfortableness than was socially necessary.

I say when meeting up in person with someone you’ve met online, if it’s a clear no go from first meeting, just say so, apologetically if you like, but pull the plug right away. They weren’t who they presented themselves as being in these cases.

MW said...

I feel a bit sorry for the guy that he's in such a gloomy state. Finding steady work and then getting his teeth fixed would likely do wonders for his self esteem, but still wouldn't fix everything.

It's quite sweet how you try to not to hurt him, but sometimes you must listen to your gut and set firm limits as soon as is appropriate. Don't drag it out. You see no future together. Prolly shoulda told him as soon as tactfully possible.

WolverineJesus said...

Wow. I go away for a little while and look what happens.

How is it that a girl like you ends up on a date like this? Makes no sense to me.

Sex, Lies and Attempts at Truth said...

I wear an invisible sign on my forhead called SUCKER. It's confirmed and I'm too nice but it bites me in the ass. I have no idea why you're disgusted FP. It really pissed me off to read that and I've hid from the blog trying to figure it out. I was going to respond with Fuck Off. but I've always liked and respected you so I won't.

Doug is bang on with the comparison to a woman showing a fake skinny picture and then saying but you will like the real me hidden underneath all the fat.

He lied about wear he stood financially too. He is a manipulator and I fell for it. I kept telling him I reserve judgement till we meet which is why for some damn reason he insisted. I had already expressed concerns about things that had been said and he wrote the email I'll post in the next comment.

Sex, Lies and Attempts at Truth said...

He sends me this email:

I think we can't delay meeting any longer so I want you to meet me today and get this over with. There won't be any conflict between how you feel and anything else then. I have to go into city to fuel my car and do some running around. And will come out to meet ya for coffee somewhere. I realize it seems silly maybe but you and I are going to meet today so this doesn't happen again. if there's chemistry then we can talk more and go from there. If there isn't then atleast you know and well you don't have to worry anymore either way. I can't keep handle this happening all based on the fact you have internal conflict because we haven't met to finalize it either way. I will txt ya to let ya know I sent this and you'll txt me so we can set a time and place. I think in order for this to move forward we have to do this. Wear something sexy, i want to look you over really good


The last sentence should have been enough for me to say Fuck You, but hindsight is 50/50. So I met him. You can see he's aware that I'm undecided about him. I did respect him taking hold of the situation and just saying he was coming out and not asking me.

Sex, Lies and Attempts at Truth said...

Long story short after the meeting was over and an hour later he asked me not to contact him again if I wasn't interested. I didn't. The next day he sends me a really, really pissed off email about how I wasted his time and how I'm shallow and selfish and how I should have contacted him even if I wasn't interested (despite the text he sent saying dont). A few hours later he sent a text saying he's fucking mad at me, but he fucking misses me. I didn't respond and have heard nothing since - a week ago today, so I think I can count on nothing happening.

Rebekah said...

Why do you take anything that Firepower says seriously, aoefe? I was really surprised to read that the comment got to you.

You gave Internet guy and the situation a really fair shot, and didn't lead him on when you realized there was no hope on any level. I don't see what you could have done better. It wasn't really a waste of time b/c you didn't know how bad things were until you met up.

brazilian woman said...

I've been experiencing that to disappoint with my chat mate
But the truth I was socializing through online dating.

David said...

"I have to go into city to fuel my car"??????

It's been a while since I was in Canada, but as I recall gas stations weren't so scare that one needed to plan special trips to urban centers to get gas or whatever...

I think people in relationships (or hoped-for relationships) can be very vulnerable to confirmation bias, and maybe you're even more susceptible to it than most...Confirmation bias being the psychological phenomenon in which someone who already believes something tends to seek out evidence which confirms that belief and ignore evidence that doesn't. It is a phenomenon well known to accident investigators, and I think also plays a strong role in accidents of the heart.

Sex, Lies and Attempts at Truth said...

David I never even caught that re:the gas. I think I assumed their was a big sale on somewhere, that can happen, but yea...now that I think about it. It does sound like you nailed it on the head as far as psychological phenomena.